The following is the transcription of the commissioner of the commissioner is the doctor who helped you on “makes nation with Margaret Brennan” the 1st of June, 2025.
Margaret Brennan: Boy in front of the nation. We are united now by commissioner fDA The doctor Marty Makary. Good afternoon.
FDA Commissioners. Marty Makary: Good morning.
Margaret Brennan: Good to have you here in person.
Dr. Makary: Good to be here.
Margaret Brennan: Then I want to get through a lot but one of the things we noticed is this new warm various that seems to be surrounding in Asia. I believe it is nb.1.8.1. Is a variant under the monitoring. What should we know?
Dr. Makary: Yes that seems to be a subvariant of jn.1, that has been the dominant bushy so that you have believed us that’s the prote of im study immunity. Covenant virus – covitu has to continue to mutate, and behave as a common cold virus. Now goes to become the fifth coronavirus that is seasoned, that makes 25% of the common cold cases.
Margaret Brennan: So think about this as a variant of flu, just a normal fluctuation.
Dr. Makary: The bluing muted about 34 times more frequently than covide. The sizes of the variant mution, but the international bodies that have provided any guidance for the target is suggested that I jn.i reasons reasons for tiarely.
Margaret Brennan: So you don’t look too much worried about it. I would like to come now in a fool of the tips default this week from CDC and you with sensible women and healthy kids from his healthy. Then he had a mismatch of CDC reclaims for children’s cattle, saying that the known risks are not exceeded the benefits. Then the end of thursday, CDC said that “shared clinical decision, which I think you speak to your doctor must determine if children are vaccinated. Can you clearly state what policy is? Because this is confused.
Dr. Makary: Yes, we believe that recommendation must be with a patient and their doctor. So we go to get away from these shutdowns to health, young Americans because we don’t want to see–
Margaret Brennan: For all cattle?
Dr. Makary: We don’t have good at the vaccine calendar, we don’t want to see school children because a 12-year-old girl is getting his Failed Booster. It does not see the data takes a young man, healthy, sense that take a repet, and ended vaccine. There is a theory we should sort the new boosters cevable in young boys in the perpetuity, and a born girl, or other shots covered in their average life. We say it is a theory, and we will like to check and get some randuted data, controlled. It’s been about four years from the original trials, so I wish you a based approach. The prased doctor and I posted this in the New England Paris Awiled Weev we want to get you surrounding a strategy strategy of strategy, because—
Margaret Brennan: Your statement was not to repeat boosters. Says the cattle is not recommended for pregnant women, the vaccine is not recommended for healthy children. That is different from annual boosters.
Dr. Makary: Yes at this point we treat, you know, it’s a Booster Strategy – People would get you up to date upgraded. So either or not a young, healthy-
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Margaret Brennan: But what about children who have not obtained a shot?
Dr. Makary: So we want to see the data. We would like to see that – that data. It does not exist.
Margaret Brennan: No, no, but nail a practical level, for a parent at home, feeling, you are looking here.
Dr. Makary: Yes. We say, take your doctor.
Margaret Brennan: his son has not been vaccinated. Is it recommended that his first meet with covite is a current infection?
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Dr. Makary: We’re not going to push cave shot in young people, healthy, healthy or no clinical test data. That is a decision between a parent and their doctor. And, so you know the statistical, but 87% of American children, their parents, they said not to torret pick the last time. Their America, the vast American majority, do not say. Maybe they want to see some clinical data as well. Maybe they worry about security–
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Margaret Brennan: I don’t want to crowd my health guide. I wish you a clear thing–
Dr. Makary: The worst thing you –
Margaret Brennan: – wouldn’t go with Popularity –
Dr. Makary: The worst–
Margaret Brennan: – – you would go, as you say, data–
Dr. Makary: –YYH then let’s see the data.
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Margaret Brennan: Okay. So the CDC data reported 41% six-month children to 17 hospitalized with covid between 2022 and 2024 did not know underlying condition. In other words, they were seemed healthy –
Dr. Makary: So–
Margaret Brennan: – – selected was serious for them.
Dr. Makary: So First, we know CDC data is polluted with a lot of cobid cobid incidental positive with routine walking in the hospital–
Margaret Brennan: You don’t trust CDC data?
Dr. Makary: – Inpluted to the ISO, when I walked to the pus we know that data and are stuck on the administration of offia and a poor cappier. When you go to a though I was in America and you are asking, how many people are in the Ik who are healthy with covite and new is, we haven’t seen that in the year. And so the worst thing you can do in public health is to place an universal recommendation absolute in healthy children. And the majority of Americans say, not, we want to see some data. And tell, forget the data. Just got in any way.
Margaret Brennan: goes for sizes and transpeence by decennia, from 1964 has been the recommended committee in the accommodation, acip that are crossed this panel recommends. People looked at these things during cobida. The report has been shot. He offered the debate, offer transparency, and offers the data points that people could refer to. Why did you bypass all this and just down with a decision before the panel could meet and meet that data?
Dr. Makary: That panel has been a kangaroo court where you were sufficient to rubber every vaccine. If you look at the minutes of the report of, even say we were usually want to move towards a risk literial approach.
Margaret Brennan: Then why don’t you let that in June?
Dr. Makary: so mean, we don’t want to get absolute absolute for healthy children to get. They can do, and that committee committed will meet and make advice. But look at the last few years of the last few years, as they say we wish you a simple message for all, based on. Was not a data conversation in data. Was a marketing conversation on marketing and easy and I wrote an article “because people don’t trust the more,” and is part of that blanket strategy
Margaret Brennan: You tell you about them now. You said just don’t trust CDC.
Dr. Makary: We say it will be between a doctor and a patient until the committee gather or more experts who weigh, or get some clinical data. If there is zero clinical data you are opinions. I mean, you are only, it’s theory and so we don’t want to execute absolute recommend for children without clinical data at this point.
Margaret Brennan: So you did this pronounced in pregnant women. There is data. Researchers in the UK analyzed a series of 67 Studies, who includes 1.8 million women, and the BMJ Global City Job. People can enjoy the house, and says covid vaccine in infection of the infection this is the data that is sample that it is recommended, for pregnant women to take this vaccine. Why do you find altogether?
Dr. Makary: There is no random control process. That’s the gold standard. Those studies 67 are mixed. The data in pregnant women are different for healthy women with a comorbid condition. So it’s a very mixed bag. Then we say your obstetric, your primary doctor, and the pregnant woman approached yes or not to achieve. 12% of pregnant women last year the year box. So people worried sounds, and it is probably because you want to see a randomized processes, the range of pregnant women-
Margaret Brennan: but the figures way, and published in the New England Paris May 20. In which two referral not a unpleasant medical design for a severe medical design. You said that. So seven days later, you are joined in this video announcement saying you should quit recomndate for healthy encompasses. So which changed in the seven days?
Dr. Makary: In the New Endernet Jourfon, simply listed what you do the CDC has trading, and we just tell you about your doctor. We don’t say the other-
Margaret Brennan: But doctors want data and information even from you
Dr. Makary: and the random test- so are the data on pregnant women. A random support has been created, and it was closed without an explanation. We want to see that IRIZE that women could have information that in the sirvanized check-in process, which is the golden standard, is there we don’t have those data.
Margaret Brennan: okay. It’s still cooling the pregnant women now they should do until they have to get the data you say –
Dr. Makary: I’ll tell you talking to his doctor.
Margaret Brennan: When do you receive the data you promise? All these controlled studies.
Dr. Makary: In the absence of data, they have to talk to their doctor –
Margaret Brennan: So no date?
Dr. Makary: – – his doctor use their best wisdom and judgment.
Margaret Brennan: Commissioner FDA, thank you for trying to help you delete this.